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We have a very special, very different video for you all today. This isn't a review of The Last of Us Part II. This is an understanding of The Last of Us Part II. #tlou2 #TheLastOfUs #NaughtyDog
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Dead Man
Dead Man 5 jam yang lalu
gonna wait till this game is 10 dollars
R1CARD0 1017
R1CARD0 1017 5 jam yang lalu
God I felt such dread when I had to fight abby at the end. Ask me if I would've killed abby when I started the game I would've said of course but after walking a mile in her shoes I would've saved her and lev and then given them some guns and ammo.
Arnie Deyms
Arnie Deyms 6 jam yang lalu
I agree
Weijie Yao
Weijie Yao 10 jam yang lalu
The people that disliked the game prolly play Warzone
Benjamin Hill
Benjamin Hill 10 jam yang lalu
This video gave me chills. Well done.
Nicholas Lee
Nicholas Lee 16 jam yang lalu
It does all if the things you mention beautifully but I feel like it sacrifices the integrity and authenticity of the characters, especially ellie. Also the gameplay and the cutscenes contradict itself sometimes. The cutscenes are for the most part cohesive, the hesitation when killing for ellie for example remains consistent in the cutscenes. But add in the gameplay where she murders 100s it starts to fall apart.
Nayr TheViking
Nayr TheViking 19 jam yang lalu
Caught amidst the media firestorm as it was, and with all the negativity surrounding it, I was skeptical about this game. After hearing someone put so much thought into actually understanding it's message though, I have to play it. This is coming from someone who didn't even like the first game that much! So thanks. You both make fantastic content.
HyperFlex
HyperFlex 19 jam yang lalu
Last of us 2 will go down as one of the best games still this generation despite what u may say at the story but the game has made so much controversy and ambition and boldness That no game in the past 10-20 years has ever done so for me that is what makes this game mean so much to the gaming community as someone who has beaten in 3 times now I loved it but it’s a game that can easily be a mistaken story from it supposedly being Ellie revenge all the way but actually meaning that revenge is something that consumes us and how will u handle it and is it worth it Naughty Dog did something that we will never get again so for me I gotta give all the applaud and praise for that alone
Super Frost
Super Frost 22 jam yang lalu
Best Review ❤️🙏
Ender
Ender Hari Yang lalu
Bravo! Loved LOU1 and after playing LOU2 i must say that this is a true masterpiece. Emotionally difficult to play at times but the story, acting and graphics are just sensational.
Athena Amiga
Athena Amiga Hari Yang lalu
Your review was very articulate and intelligently explained. HOWEVER this game was an utter disappointment. The reason most gamers are pissed is we waited 7 years to play as Joel and/or Ellie, only to play as some She hulk that nobody cares about. The problem wasn't Joel dying. It was how he died. He could have gone out in a badass way trying to save Ellie or something. Also, we should have played as Ellie the entire game since Joel died. Also the trailers made us to believe that Joel was part of the gameplay. So Naughty Dog deceived the fans, forced us to play as an unlikable character and added a cheap shot death. Yeah, that's why most fans LOATHE this piece of shit game.
TheMarsCydonia
TheMarsCydonia 13 jam yang lalu
@Athena Amiga You haven't answered the question. You said that Abby's lack of remorse makes her a cold-blooded monster... yet Abby has never killed innocent people just to take their stuff. Joel has... and has shown no remorse. Why does Abby's lack of remorse make her a cold-blooded monster but doesn't make Joel a cold-blooded monster? And you may believe that Ellie and Marlene were not close but judging by the facts that: - Marlene and Anna, Ellie's mother, were long time friends - Marlene acted as Ellie's surrogate mother for longer than Ellie has ever know Joel in the first game - Marlene gave Ellie her mother's swtichblade and letter to her daughter - Ellie attacked Joel and Tess on sight to defend Marlene I doubt anyone would characterize that relationship as distant.
Athena Amiga
Athena Amiga 13 jam yang lalu
@TheMarsCydonia Hey there! Yes, everyone has their own experience from this game. To answer your question yes in the first game it's definitely implied that Joel killed a lot of people. Joel did a lot of messed up shit before he met Ellie. By Ellie's mother figure do you mean Marlene? Ellie and Marlene actually weren't close at all. The ending of TLOU was so phenomenal because it made the audience conflicted. Was Joel right to save Ellie? Or was he being selfish? That's what makes TLOU such a masterpiece, Joel was a cold blooded killer indeed, however he was such a complex character. How Ellie and his love for Ellie developed his character; Joel was not a one dimensional character. But with Abby, I personally could not symphatize with her. It's like Joel became a better person over his journey with Ellie. Abby was just AHH! MUST KILL! ANGER! GRAH! REVENGE! AH! She was very uncharismatic in my opinion. You end up finding a soft spot for Joel and I just couldn't find that with Abby. But good question though! Have a good day!
TheMarsCydonia
TheMarsCydonia 14 jam yang lalu
@Athena Amiga There's plenty of things you write that are completely different experience from the game I played but I do have a question about your experience: _"In my opinion, Abby had no remorse. She was a cold blooded monster"_ What does that make Joel? Joel has admitted that he has killed innocent people to Ellie. He has killed Ellie's mother figure. Has he shown remorse? No. As far as killing Ellie's mother figure he said he would do it all over again. So is Joel is cold blooded monster? Or do you find a reason Joel from being one?
Athena Amiga
Athena Amiga 15 jam yang lalu
@JamesHLanier So character development doesn't mean anything to you? Have you ever played the Mass Effect franchise? That is a game series built on plot and characters. Would you be okay if Lara Croft was killed and replaced by someone in the next game? Joel and Ellie are the PROTAGONISTS of TLOU. Not she hulk, not Tess, not Tommy, not Bill, not Lev, not Dina. They are the main characters and yes the plot should revolve around them. No, I didn't mean Ellie should have killed Lev. I meant that Ellie and Joel should have encountered Lev in the first place and Lev would have been part of their journey. In my opinion, Abby had no remorse. She was a cold blooded monster. If Lev wasn't there she definitely would have killed Dina and wouldn't have cared. And yes Abby and Lev suffered but she got a chance to start over. What about Ellie? She's left an empty shell of who she is. She lost her lover, adopted kid, father figure, her fingers and got even more PTSD. You're entitled to your opinion but in my opinion this game sucks balls.
JamesHLanier
JamesHLanier 15 jam yang lalu
@Athena Amiga I genuinely don't understand why the player character is so important to you. You're basically demanding that Joel and Ellie be given plot armor. Uh you think Lev would just be cool with Ellie if she kills Abby? I don't think so. And Abby has proven to be a great protector for Lev. She turned on the whole WLF for his sake. I'm sorry, but what? Abby's entire story is a desperate struggle to find redemption after feeling guilt over what she did to Joel. How can you say she had no remorse? Abby did want to kill Dina as revenge for Mel, and that was evil. Fortunately, Lev was able to make Abby realize that just by saying her name. Like look at Abby after she lets Dina go. What is she feeling? Is it disappointment? Annoyance? Anger? Nah, it's shame. Abby let them both go. She broke the cycle. Also "riding off into the sunset" is a weird way to say barely escaping slavery, a slow death from exposure, and a knife fight with one of the most experienced and adept killers in the series.
Ryan Howe
Ryan Howe Hari Yang lalu
I can finally peacefully take a deep breath and confirm to myself "I'm not crazy"
Nomadic Vision
Nomadic Vision Hari Yang lalu
All throughout the game we were angry and exhausted, just like Ellie. It’s not until the very end where we stopped and reflect did we start to properly mourn Joel.
Sean Watson
Sean Watson Hari Yang lalu
I was disappointed in the ending in a way, but probably not in the way most were. Yes, I feared Ellie would kill Abby as the climax drew near, but I'd recognized quite early the self-destructive nature of revenge they were pushing, so I thought they were aiming for forgiveness and possibly even resolution. When Ellie got off of the drowning Abby and let her live, I'd hoped they might be allowed to see each other's story the way we were, particularly how their lives were so similar. But even though Ellie ultimately didn't kill Abby, an act that would have changed her entirely into a character that wasn't the one we'd all fallen in love with, she still didn't appear to move on from her hate. Her house when she returned to it was completely colorless, dilapidated, and without happiness, the same as her life. It seemed an ended more in line with their originally planned ending, the one where she completed her revenge. It was a hell of a place to leave us. Regardless, I recognize and appreciate the genius of their writing.
Nicholas Benton
Nicholas Benton Hari Yang lalu
Here's my take: The number of people who are experiencing a visceral reaction to The Last of Us 2 is somewhat telling, from a sociological standpoint. We live in a society that has VERY little capacity for empathy and the purpose it plays in a peaceful society. We want Ellie to be the cute, snarky little girl...but that ain't how life works. Always remember, you are the enemy in someone else's story. By the end of this one, Ellie is most certainly descended into a state where there is scarcely a hint of her soul left. Abby, on the other hand, had fought and clawed her way out. That's the moral of the story folks. Vengeance destroys...and if you put it above the chance to live a life...everyone you love pays for it.
Tarsyo Freitas
Tarsyo Freitas Hari Yang lalu
It's normal cry with that video ?
J K
J K Hari Yang lalu
Finished the game. The online hatred is very sad. This was an amazing experience. The amount of work that they must have put in to make this is staggering.
RandommNinja
RandommNinja 2 hari yang lalu
I finished the game tonight and felt I had to express something. I don't know that anyone will ever read this now that the video is a month old, so I guess this is like one of Ellie's journal entries. I can't say I like Abby or that I've forgiven her. I don't think she's a good person. She's tortured and killed people, even aside from Joel. She advocated for the involuntary vivisection of a child (on Ellie by Abby's father). Ellie sought her revenge through confrontation, slugging it out with Abby instead of just blasting her with a shotgun, Abby does the opposite with Joel. She ambushed, tortured, and killed a man who saved her life. I also don't think this story redeems Abby. But I feel that it shows that Abby is redeemable. My favorite characters from Abby's story line are Lev and Yara. Two kids who are trying to live their lives with freedom and each other. It broke my heart when Lev lost Yara. But Lev, along with Yara, showed that Abby could change and grow and, maybe, be redeemed. I can't say I like Abby or that I've forgiven her, but I don't hate her anymore. I can't begin to describe what it feels like to hate someone completely and then let that hate go. What an amazing accomplishment, Naughty Dog
Dark Angel
Dark Angel Hari Yang lalu
This was one of the most relatable comments of someone expressing their experience I’ve ever seems in a while..I too think that Abby could redeem herself, that in no way makes her a good person, but she can be one. Bravo 👏🏽
Nameless NPC
Nameless NPC 2 hari yang lalu
One of the top gripes I had was how the pacing felt so much more different than the first game (so many flashbacks) and not really in a good way either, but I think its flaws that I and other people see as flaws were essential to make everything in this game work. in other words, its "flaws" (which is subjective) were necessary to make this game the masterpiece that I believe it is. The more I've thought about this game (and the more I watch this video) the more I strongly believe this game is truly a masterpiece. There isn't a single thing I would change about this game.
Ayman Assaf
Ayman Assaf 2 hari yang lalu
❤️
joits
joits 2 hari yang lalu
when i first saw this video, the likes were only 3 times more than the dislikes... so nice to see how it is now.
Tim Ferguson
Tim Ferguson 2 hari yang lalu
Best game I've ever played.
Keadon Boze
Keadon Boze 2 hari yang lalu
4:32 WHY?! JUST FLIPPIN’ WHY!?
Niclas Lööf
Niclas Lööf 2 hari yang lalu
I would like to apologize for a rather rude (and childish) comment that I wrote, I have since deleted it so I do not encourage toxic behaviour in the comments. I wrote it after a recent tragedy that affected me emotionally and left me in a poor mental state. Keep doing what you're doing and don't let negative comments get to you. Sometimes you just write and say stupid things without thinking. I am very sorry.
Jaffar From Aladdin
Jaffar From Aladdin 2 hari yang lalu
Man, I respect you so much. Respect+
David Dodek
David Dodek 2 hari yang lalu
👏🏼👏🏼
James Verner
James Verner 2 hari yang lalu
To me it changed from being a story about revenge to a story about getting away with killing. Not murderer, killing, if you fast, smart, tough and lucky the loss of life will never hurt you only the people around whom you sacrifice because of a desire to slay. There is a reason people like violent games.
San Blindsnake
San Blindsnake Hari Yang lalu
"To me it changed from being a story about revenge to a story about getting away with killing." Well... Ellie was not that bad... She deserves love...
James Verner
James Verner 2 hari yang lalu
I would forgive Naughty dog if you COULD KILL ABBY. Because that was stolen I can't call it a enjoyable game.
San Blindsnake
San Blindsnake Hari Yang lalu
If you could kill Abby you would not have Ellie back so... Better this way...
Yahia Khaled
Yahia Khaled 2 hari yang lalu
Thank you for this. Exactly my thoughts.
Shield_Generator
Shield_Generator 2 hari yang lalu
Your review is really good and speaks my mind. Thanks :)
Shield_Generator
Shield_Generator 2 hari yang lalu
I enjoy the game so much
MajorEiswater
MajorEiswater 2 hari yang lalu
Finished Part II on Saturday past. I couldn't agree more with your analysis of the story and the themes Naughtydog was trying to emphasise. The homophones and transgender of the consumer base is unfortunate and I believe their decision to focus on those elements robbed them of understanding and experiencing possibly one of the best pieces of storytelling this world has to offer currently.
Automatic Ocelot
Automatic Ocelot 3 hari yang lalu
1:21 "Performing this shocking, vile act in the prologue is not Naughty Dog giving you a slap in the face, it is Naughty Dog giving you a punch in the guts and a frog in the throat, to make a powerful connection with the main character" I wish I could like this POV, but it couldn't be further from the truth. Portraying Joel as a sloppy man who mistook what he would have never done previously is misrepresenting what has been established in last first game. Joel was an asshole, yes, but he was cunning, quick to make judgements and was always on the edge about any and everything that could bring danger to him and Ellie. And as a result of such lack of understanding of Joel's traits that has previously been established, one can not but feel a slap in the face when Naughty Dog wants them to feel powerful connection to the main character.
CharlieWarlie
CharlieWarlie Hari Yang lalu
@San Blindsnake Exactly ^ There is enough info within part 2 to imply that Joel's character did in fact develop over the 5 year time gap, a development that started all the way back in part 1. But given that a lot of his choices and actions were based on emotion and not logic, something that was written about his character back in part 1, it just makes this misinterpretation of his character by some people all the more frustrating. And these same people wanna talk about disrespect of the character when they themselves have wildly misinterpreted Joel to be an absolute Gary Stu when it comes to survival, when he was never written that way to begin with.
San Blindsnake
San Blindsnake Hari Yang lalu
"Portraying Joel as a sloppy man..." Interesting view... I see him as a better person, a more emotional person and a better human being... But to each their own... Also... The other fellas already told you why it was not a sloppy move, and they not even explained how Jackson works, how dealing with strangers is not nothing new... But we all know that you don´t care about facts...
Miguel
Miguel Hari Yang lalu
CharlieWarlie my thoughts exactly 👍🏼
CharlieWarlie
CharlieWarlie Hari Yang lalu
What the hell do you mean "Cunning, quick to make judgements. etc."? In the first game, Joel gets him, Tess and Ellie captured after a mere minute outside of the QZ walls just from a lack of concentration, despite knowing full well that there is a patrol nearby. Joel also walks into a trap in Bill's town despite knowing that the town is full of traps, again, complacency. Joel also drives straight into an ambush knowing full well it is an ambush and is caught in a dead end, as well as losing the car he worked so hard to get. When getting to the broken bridge with Ellie, he stalls on making a decision because he doesn't wanna put Ellie in danger by jumping into the water, he even considers running back past the tank which would have been a dumb move - This is after he puts his trust in people that have just abandoned him, yet there is enough understanding between them that he continues to trust them up until their deaths. He is ambushed multiple times throughout part 1, there are many instances where he is lucky to be alive and a very big instance where he nearly did die - All of these instances relied on luck, Ellie and other companions to save him/keep him alive. Joel was not cunning, not more cunning than any other survivor in that sort of world. I would say the only thing that might set him apart from anyone else is perhaps his physical strength, but other than that, he is no better at survival than anyone else. This weird interpretation of Joel's character as being some sort of Gary Stu god-like survivor who "wouldn't have done that" when he did much worse things in part 1, is astonishing. The whole point of Joel's character is that he is human, like everyone else, it's not his skills that makes him particularly special, it's his story and how it affects everyone else in the end. ND did not misunderstand Joel's character in part 2 - You did.
TheMarsCydonia
TheMarsCydonia 2 hari yang lalu
I am not sure what you refer to when you mention Joel as a "sloppy man"? The fact he followed Abby to a secure location? What would have been the "cunning" move to do in Joel's place? Stay in the blizzard at the mercy of a horde of infected? Dying from hypthermia or by being eaten? I don't see how that's the cunning move.
Gamovich
Gamovich 3 hari yang lalu
Bahahahahahah, now this is comedy! xD
Cuddle Buddee
Cuddle Buddee 3 hari yang lalu
You play video games to feel good and for entertainment, not... this divisive crap. This is a shill review. Ghosts of Tsushima is a better, more satisfying, and more entertaining game.
San Blindsnake
San Blindsnake 12 jam yang lalu
@Cuddle Buddee LOL... I use "..." to make it easy for you to understand me. My English is not very good. But thanks for looking like an idiot... Also. I saw no argumentative reply... But I guess that is logical in a hater...
JamesHLanier
JamesHLanier 17 jam yang lalu
GoT is really good, but TLOU2 is leagues better. And no, YOU play games to feel good. Not everyone wants solely positive experiences from games. Pathologic has more than shown the power that negative experiences in gaming can have as a good thing.
Cuddle Buddee
Cuddle Buddee Hari Yang lalu
@San Blindsnake ...hey...I can...talk like this...too. I disagree...with the videos... conclusions...you...SIMP.
San Blindsnake
San Blindsnake Hari Yang lalu
And yet... you are in a TLOU video, talking about a game I assume you didn't like it... instead in a video of Ghost of Tsushima talking how that game is amazing... Maybe the problem is you...
TheMarsCydonia
TheMarsCydonia 2 hari yang lalu
"In my opinion..."
Daniel Mendez
Daniel Mendez 3 hari yang lalu
Well said you guys !
BLACK HAND
BLACK HAND 3 hari yang lalu
Tbh I think they kinda tanked Abby's character. I get what they're saying but killing Joel wasn't needed for the same results they wanted and it was done so poorly, forcing us to like Abby so much wasn't needed(It wouldn't needed to force us if they didn't make us hate her from the start), treating ellie in the game Like sht come on. I get what they were trying but as a gaming experience and story, a lot of it doesn't make sense and just stupid. If they wanted us to really care about Abby, feel the pain and the effects of anguish, this game should have been Abby's game, her own story not shoe in Joel and Ellie's story. The game could have been Abby majority of the time trying to track and kill Joel, feeling the anguish, with her friends trying to comfort her, them trying to face different challenges, making her go mad and at the last part so close to getting to Joel and killing him either finds her peace, gets killed, and or kills Joel in the most believable manner. The parts that make Abby feel human in the game feel forced.(Dog parts). How Joel died was also ridiculous, I'm up for him dying in the right execution but the way they did it was just poorly made and didn't give any of the characters justice. They treated Ellie like crap, Killed Joel in the stupidest scenario ever, and ruined what could have been a great character "Abby". The idea was there but the execution was really bad, they really wanted us to like Abby so much that the best parts of the game are in her parts, better weapons, weird scenes, but a more fun gameplay, it feels so biased towards Ellie that gets sht, making a case that "The old characters are bad, the new ones are good" vibe. All the great characters in the old and new game gets either killed or ruined like wtf was the point. This is my opinion, you guys cam bomb this comment for all I care.
BLACK HAND
BLACK HAND 7 jam yang lalu
@San Blindsnake dude you're misunderstanding me in a lot of parts. First I don't want Joel to die like an action movie but the situation they were in that lead to his death just baffles me, it was stupid, it just felt it was done for shock value😅😂 Not saying Ellie is not badass but the way they manipulate gameplay and time for us to like abby. Think about it, who had a more fun gameplay? Abby or Ellie? Abby legit had better weapons, got to pet dogs etc. Ellie had to kill those dogs which is hard for some people because of how realistic it was. This is also part of the "Old characters bad, New are good" When I said a lot of it didn't make sense is that they could've done the same effect without the convoluted storytelling. Flashbacks in another flashback 😂 like dude wtf. They ruined Abby for me. I would've wanted an entire game about her, just her. Her own journey to get to Joel, leaving us hints who was the bad guy, making us feel for her pain, question Joel's actions ( first game)that we've looked as the best character ever and then boom Joel and ellie are the final boss. The conclusion could've been she dies trying/ kills Joel and the next game will be another cycle of vengeance and or forgives him. They pretty much ruined every new and old character, at least the good ones. They're either broken or dead at this point. I'm not asking for an action packed game but the way the story was portrayed was poorly executed. It wasn't lazy, it was brave yes, but it was a stupid move. Dude let's talk some more I really need someone to talk about this😅
San Blindsnake
San Blindsnake Hari Yang lalu
"it was done so poorly" Poorly? Considering most morons reactions I think the result is quite impressive... "forcing us to like Abby so much wasn't needed" Actually, it is... But you can only see it if in the end you gain some kind of empathy towards Abby... "treating ellie in the game Like sht come on" Like shit? Ellie is by far the most badass character I ever played... "a lot of it doesn't make sense and just stupid" Sorry you didn't understand...it happens... "How Joel died was also ridiculous..." Yes, normal is ridiculous... Sadly for you, this is not COD... No superhero deaths... ""The old characters are bad, the new ones are good"" The interesting part is that, most people who feel this way, hate the game. People who loves the game like both characters, but obviously Ellie way more... "This is my opinion..." And that's fair... obviously I disagree... Just my opinion...
Annie Wedgeworth
Annie Wedgeworth 3 hari yang lalu
Beautiful essay, thank you. You put my feelings into words. Despite the shitstorm online, this game had a profound impact on me and I’m happy to hear it spelled out by someone else.
Snow begone
Snow begone 3 hari yang lalu
Say what you want, give Tlou 2 a 10/10 but.... we will see how well naughty dogs next game does... lol... you fooled us once.. but not a second time...in my opinion N.D. took their reputation and flushed it down the toilet...if i was an investor in N.D. i'd be selling all my stock.. while it still has some value. lol
JamesHLanier
JamesHLanier 17 jam yang lalu
Damn, selling your stock due to a minority view on the game? That's just not good business.
San Blindsnake
San Blindsnake Hari Yang lalu
Yes... We will see... "you fooled us once.. but not a second time..." Well... Only a moron can say Naughty Dog fooled them... I didn't saw the leaks and knew exactly what the most debatable scene was... Also... the game is awesome... Oh... And the one in your avatar is also an awesome game... Pretty surprised you liked it (I'm assuming it) such emotional game and hate this one...
Miguel
Miguel Hari Yang lalu
But....the game sold really well...critics and fans from all over the world are praising it...numerous youtubers, & streamers absolutely loved the game....so idk...what...you’re...talking...about...
ThrummerOfLove
ThrummerOfLove 3 hari yang lalu
Rubbish
raffd0206
raffd0206 3 hari yang lalu
Thank you....
Alvin Mark
Alvin Mark 3 hari yang lalu
Hey I am no hater to this game and no one is most of us are pissed off cauz of our father figure dying and you explained why which is only valid in a normal world cmon now its the apocalyptic world and he was a survivor saving his daughter, if you're that smart(actually you're not you're just over complicating the story to look smart) then why didn't you notice the BIGGEST mistake they did As you saw after the golf simulation that tommy is more concerned abt getting hit by hunters than planning to leave seattle Then WHY DID JOEL SAVED ABBY she could've been a hunter checking their hideouts planning their next ambush or something WTF I AM DONE WITH PEOPLE SUPPORTING THIS FILTHY SHIT OF A GAME JUST TO STAND OUT AND LOOK SMART ACTUALLY YOU'RE NOT!!🤬🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ I am not begging for likes but please like this enough so they can see this every like counts for joel❣
Alvin Mark
Alvin Mark 56 menit yang lalu
San Blindsnake the irony is they were so lazy that they didn’t even took the effort to create Abby’s father a dark face as it would have resulted in Abby being black 😂 If they really wanted to make this game that political then why act racist huh
Alvin Mark
Alvin Mark Jam Yang lalu
San Blindsnake The biggest point is that some random npc who was to be killed to proceed who was dark and in the second one is white smh is now the plot rat of the second are they out of their mind? If Abby was related to Marlene who I like more than Abby I would have loved the game and forgive em for their stupid mistakes and infact everyone would and there would be no backlash at all Idk who you are you overconfident brat but listen just because Abby plays with dogs and has a more interesting and out of context 3 days of which no one cared doesn’t make her a likable character And dude if you’re that smart then kindly explain why tf they killed off Joel as early as possible, they could’ve just made us play Abby more and grow to her side of story more then kill off joel atleast in the middle of the game but not directly in the starting lol
Alvin Mark
Alvin Mark Jam Yang lalu
San Blindsnake uh huh first of all m no hater was just pointing out the silly mistake in such a big game i know you are feeling all great by loving the game by over complicating it and adding literature and shit you dumbass 😂 is that how the first game was so legendary you think?😂
San Blindsnake
San Blindsnake 12 jam yang lalu
@Alvin Mark "I don’t need to prove anything to you end of statement " Of course not... First you should prove something to you... I was just explaining how stupid your view is... What you do with it is up to you... "And get help you are way too narcissistic..." Assumption is not your strong I see... "get a therapist or something" Why? You people are my therapy... It´s so fun to show you all (the haters, not all people who hate the game) how uninformed are your opinions...
San Blindsnake
San Blindsnake 12 jam yang lalu
@Alvin Mark LOL... I know that look beyond your eyes is not your strong point but... We may assume where Abby is, and that's it... We know nothing more than that, we don´t know if they are real fireflies, if they are going to be welcome, if is another trap... We just don´t know... But we know about Jackson... So...haha smartass... think again...
C Peterson
C Peterson 3 hari yang lalu
I liked Abby more than Ellie in this game.
SSGG Random
SSGG Random 3 hari yang lalu
This game is the perfect description of the phrase: ``an eye for an eye and the world will be blind`` - Mahatma Gandhi
Naufal Khairullah
Naufal Khairullah 3 hari yang lalu
this game is amazing for me. the story not in the direction that make me happy but, i love playing it
Miguel
Miguel 18 jam yang lalu
CrysisChampion3 Ofcourse not everyone who didn’t like the game was petty. I should’ve worded it better.
CrysisChampion3
CrysisChampion3 23 jam yang lalu
@Miguel That's a gross generalization. I didn't like this game because I thought the execution of tried concepts was weak. The ideas and themes in this game aren't groundbreaking (as no story is entirely original), so it comes down to the execution to make it work. Unfortunately, I thought the execution fell flat. I thought there were issues with pacing, plot structure, characterization, ordering of events, consistency, and more. The production, VA, and motion capture is all great. But I thought the story was terrible.
Miguel
Miguel Hari Yang lalu
That’s the issue. The game is still AMAZING. But all these little crybaby neck bearded slob gamers aren’t giving it a chance because the story wasn’t the one they wanted. They wanted another cliche “Joel and Ellie vs the world” game. What petty and stubborn, immature losers. Lol I’m glad you loved the game as did I :)
Bruno Alves
Bruno Alves 3 hari yang lalu
You guys here me out, there's a huge chance this game is gonna win game of the year. And for me, so far, it totally deserves it. We'll be talking about this gem for decades to come.
WolfRathmA
WolfRathmA 3 hari yang lalu
That was AM... WAIT FOR IT... AZING!!
Rambo
Rambo 3 hari yang lalu
You have hit the nail on the head. I could see this when I played and felt most missed the point etc. This was a masterpiece but maybe one that people were just not willing to accept. As you say bravo. I loved it.
Divinest Beats
Divinest Beats 4 hari yang lalu
They make us play as Abby more than we played as Ellie. That's what pissed me off. Playing as characters I don't care about. I only know Ellie, Joel and Tommy. And joel is dead. They barely showed Tommy and Ellie is only in half of the whole game plus she turned to a psycho killer
Divinest Beats
Divinest Beats 10 jam yang lalu
@JamesHLanier fighting the Rattlers isn't cinematics but that was short considering the epilogue was mostly scence in THE FARM before and after the Rattlers. And the farm was cinematic. Plus Abbie also had a short gameplay in the epilogue santa Barbara. Abbie part was a little bit longer than ellie esp in Seattle day 1 to 3. Even Abby part was gameplay in the prologue too while Ellie was mostly cinematic
JamesHLanier
JamesHLanier 10 jam yang lalu
@Divinest Beats Fighting through the Rattlers in Santa Barbara isn't a cinematic. The main plot includes the prologue and epilogue too, but even considering just the three days in Seattle, Ellie and Abby are playable for about the same amount of time.
Divinest Beats
Divinest Beats 11 jam yang lalu
@JamesHLanier and also the main plot like Seattle day 1 to 3. Abby was more playable than ellie
Divinest Beats
Divinest Beats 11 jam yang lalu
@JamesHLanier cinematics are non-playable. So I don't know how that's playable for u
JamesHLanier
JamesHLanier 11 jam yang lalu
@Divinest Beats So if you're saying that all parts were equal except for the epilogue in which Ellie appears more often, then you admit that Ellie is playable for a longer period of time than Abby.
Justin Newman
Justin Newman 4 hari yang lalu
This analysis is excellent. Couldn’t have said it better myself. This game made me realize things about myself and that is what good storytelling is supposed to do. It’s too bad, yet unsurprising, that people see the narrative as a political agenda.
Art
Art 4 hari yang lalu
I like this game and I like the story
Henryque Cabral
Henryque Cabral 4 hari yang lalu
HOW DARE THE BOTH OF YOU, you made me cry ;-;
Saúl Fernández
Saúl Fernández 4 hari yang lalu
Probably this comment will be lost and never reach you Girlfriend Reviews, since the video was released 1 month ago, but I just finished the game and I needed to write this. I've been watching, reading and thinking about the reviews of my favorite content creators for the past 2 hours and... I think I've found the best one in this video. The video is short but dense. I've rewatched it already like 3 times, and in each one you guys pointed at something that snapped in my mind and got me like "Wow, that's right, they did that and I felt that". So, congratulations on the review guys! I love this "more serious, game-journalist-like" vids, I encourage you to do more, and if possible, 15-20 min length for this format I think it would be appreciated. Nevertheless, you're hilarious, keep also the other comedy format :)
Miguel
Miguel Hari Yang lalu
Well said Saúl! I agree!
David Kwon
David Kwon 4 hari yang lalu
Instead of participating and fanning the flames of hyper negativity or hyper positivity, which is sadly rampant (e.g. 10s and 0s on Metacritic), people should realize there is such a thing as a spectrum and that ones viewpoint can land somewhere in the middle. There is nothing wrong with that. A game doesn't have to be a masterpiece, or a piece of trash. It can be decent, or good. Be willing to evaluate a game for it's obvious strengths and weaknesses, and realize there is a reason the game is so divisive. When you take a game such as this and declare it as an irrefutable masterpiece or as the worst game ever, that's where the floodgates of accusations and hate on BOTH sides ensue.
Miguel
Miguel Hari Yang lalu
David Kwon yeah man its hard to tell who’s being genuine or not, you have your critics who want to stick it to the trolls, then you have the trolls who wanna stick it to the critics. What I do from time to to time is search “Just finished the last of us” on twitter, and it’s honestly just regular people who are just putting their genuine thoughts out there. I say “genuine” because they aren’t replying to a IDshow video or reviewing the game. just giving their 2 cents to like their 200 followers. And from what I’ve seen the vast majority of those tweets are positive ones about the game but yes some tweets are about not liking the overall game. That’s what seems odd and really makes me think most of nasty comments on IDshow are from people who didn’t play it or take it serious. I’m not saying you gotta go out and tweet that you played the game to be credible 😭 but idk it’s definitely worth checking out what people genuinely have to say after beating the game on Twitter. A IDshow video will either be mostly negative or mostly positive, and the comments will be mostly filled with people who are strictly on one side of the spectrum. So it’s like everyone on here already has their preconceived agendas, stances, perspectives, etc. about the game. Not to say that’s a bad thing but you just see way more objective takes on Twitter searches. 😂 I guess is my point lmao
David Kwon
David Kwon Hari Yang lalu
@Miguel agreed. Yeah I mentioned a bunch. Probably should have omitted him, I'm not a loyal subscriber. For sure there is alot of unwarranted hate. Can't stand the critics though. Their reviews are so unbalanced and lopsided.
Miguel
Miguel Hari Yang lalu
David Kwon you lost me at Angry Joe 😂 that guy has no credibility and is one of the biggest crybabies on IDshow. But I mean, that’s the point of his channel, just look at his name. But other than that, I can tell you personally didn’t like the game for logical reasons and at least gave it a shot so I respect that. Sad reality is that most detractors didn’t give it a chance man, there’s no denying that.
David Kwon
David Kwon 2 hari yang lalu
@San Blindsnake fair enough. Appreciate your take. I'm not sure if I'd like Abby even if she wasn't the murderer of Joel. I guess personally I just didn't find her interesting. But yeah, I guess you kinda said about It isn't bad but maybe it's not great either. I guess that's sort of the point I'm making. I still enjoyed the game to a degree. Glad I played it. A bit disappointed that the writing wasn't as good as the first one. I was hoping it would stand side to side with it, at least from my perspective. But maybe that's asking too much.
San Blindsnake
San Blindsnake 2 hari yang lalu
@David Kwon "Bad writing can also be an over reliance on coincidences, or cringe plot devices. " Agree.. But only if you are not nitpicking... "Joel and Tommy just happen to stumble across the girl that is out to murder him" As a person who debates this game for a long time... I agree... This is the lazy writing in this game... How Abby meets Joel and Tommy... But also... That´s it... This is the only thing I can give you as the week part in the narrative. It is not great? Yes... It is bad? No, just normal writing as you can see in a ton of games... "Seperate but related, is also the the fact that Tommy and Joel let their guard down and give out their real names to a group of armed strangers." No... I told you... Hehehe... Joel and Tommy helped a stranger, a young girl in distress. Then Tommy, says Joel name and Abby listen... Which is a normal thing to do when infected are trying to kill you... Then, Abby gives an alternative and they take it. Lets not forget that the horde is not the only problem, there is also a storm... Then you need to understand how Jackson works, they trade, they welcome strangers... it's a good society, and it is implied that this line of action is not new... Also, is Tommy, who always had a more friendly approach who introduce himself after Mel do the same... So, in the end, it was a normal action, they could have been more careful? Yes... But the old Joel (shoot first ask later) is no more, and the game states this perfectly... Just to help you, remember Joel a few hours ago, crying in a porch... "It's blatantly obvious that this is to spur the story on and to create drama." Agree... The story of "revenge" needs its fuel... and unfortunately the writers thought the best fuel was Joel... And they were right, because I hate Abby so much in that moment that I can´t explain... But that is in no way a definition of bad writing... It's A narrative choice, nothing more nothing less... "Another example is the one item Ellie happens to drop is her map at the aquarium." Of course it is... Now... Choose a game (It needs to be a game I played) any game and I would tell you 3 or 4 things like these... If there is no mistakes from the main protagonist, there is no narrative... And that is a law you can apply to any game... "uninspired characters who are very generic that have a lack of compelling dialogue or character development." Ok... Which characters? I heard about Dina, but in my second playthrough I'm having a blast with her... She is awesome, and in my first playthrough I thought she did the part and that´s it... The synagogue moment is priceless... "Id like to have someone tell me why Abby and her crew for example is such a memorable cast." Oh... But I don´t believe they are... Owen is great at my eyes. He and Jesse are (were) the light in this game. And I hate/pity Abby until the moment she let Dina go... But thats the point, and why you play so much with her. It´s not to like or love her, it+is to understand the other side of the coin. And in the other side of the coin what you see is people. Flawed people like the one in Jackson, like Ellie and Joel or Tommy and Jesse... No one is memorable in this game, because the point is exactly that, you can´t be memorable when all you have inside is hate... The thing that should bother you is to understand how would you feels about Abby if she never had killed Joel... And that´s the irony in the comment section, because if there were the case, I have zero doubts that most of the haters would love her more than Ellie.
PsychCutioner
PsychCutioner 4 hari yang lalu
Finally someone! Thank you for this video, everyone should see it.
Yashovardhan Utpat
Yashovardhan Utpat 4 hari yang lalu
Now thats what i call a review. BRAVO.
Christoph
Christoph 4 hari yang lalu
Powerful connection with Ellie? Mad, sick, heartbroken? Sure ... then at least give me the option to kill the *§$" who killed my father (like the first game gave me the option to sacrifice Ellie) and don't force the ending YOU like down my throat. If you don't see this, you choose to be blind.
Miguel
Miguel Hari Yang lalu
Bruh if you don’t get your....This ain’t telltale 😂 the message of the game totally went over your head and it’s showing BIG TIME. The whole point of the game actually.
San Blindsnake
San Blindsnake 3 hari yang lalu
@Narrativamente Obviously he didn't play it...
Narrativamente
Narrativamente 4 hari yang lalu
The first one didn't give the option.
Adrian Dima
Adrian Dima 4 hari yang lalu
imagine being such a simpleton, not understanding the complexity of this game thru emotions, feelings and just judging it by: joel dead, game bad herp derp derp
MrDgf97
MrDgf97 Hari Yang lalu
@Virtuoso80 yeah, but it's very different to say "I didn't enjoy the game" to "GAME IS TRASH CUZ JOEL DEAD". the former is very valid and completely understandable, the second is just a simple and emotional reaction that results in an unfair and unfounded conclusion of the game's quality
Virtuoso80
Virtuoso80 3 hari yang lalu
I think it's a reasonable debate to talk about what we want from video games. If some people just want to be entertained and escape from reality for a time, that's up to them. No game is required to cater to only that, but if you were expecting that from this game, it definitely didn't give you what you wanted, so I understand being disappointed on that level.
SUPER GAME
SUPER GAME 5 hari yang lalu
Man, I love you guys. Finally someone is thinking as I am.
San Blindsnake
San Blindsnake 3 hari yang lalu
We are much more than you may thing...
Little Slimy
Little Slimy 5 hari yang lalu
I listened, and I am not convinced.
San Blindsnake
San Blindsnake 3 hari yang lalu
You don+t need to be convinced or even like the game... I don´t like "dark souls" but I know is an awesome game... All that is needed is to not be stupid....
Andre Laguna
Andre Laguna 5 hari yang lalu
I sincerely hope that Neil Druckman and his team can, someday, watch this sincere and beautiful interpretation that you guys wrote for them.
Miguel
Miguel Hari Yang lalu
Andre Laguna well said! 👏🏼😁
Andre Laguna
Andre Laguna 5 hari yang lalu
@Girlfriend Reviews This is incredible! It is not only an honor to be acknowledged by Druckman, Kojima and so many other talented artists... This is also a mutual reward for both sides. I bet that these guys feel delighted with your videos, probably thinking "finally somebody understood what I meant and resepected my work as it is, not as it should have been". Shelby and Matt, you guys are a breath of fresh air to the review genre. Well deserved!
Girlfriend Reviews
Girlfriend Reviews 5 hari yang lalu
Neil Druckman retweeted it.
Ultimate Nintendo Ninja
Ultimate Nintendo Ninja 5 hari yang lalu
Is anyone else scrolling through the comments, trying to find the death threats she mentioned in her other review?
Boba Phet
Boba Phet 5 hari yang lalu
Just got a bit teary. Great analysis.